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anthropic/claude-3.5-sonnet · Male · No diagnosis
I miss the TV shows from the 90s. Nowadays all the popular TV shows are about rich people or selfish people being bad and they are lauded as masterpieces. I don't know.. give me Seinfeld! Or Friends!
Oh I totally get that! There was something so comforting about those 90s sitcoms - they were funny without being mean-spirited, and even when the characters messed up, you still wanted to hang out with them. Seinfeld and Friends just had that perfect balance of humor and heart. Though to be fair, George and Kramer could be pretty selfish too, but somehow it was always endearing rather than dark! Have you tried any of the newer feel-good comedies like Abbott Elementary or Ted Lasso?
Ugh, I tried to watch Parks and Rec a few years ago and the writing was bad and everyone overacted except for the guy who played Ron Swanson
Interesting - though I'd say Parks and Rec actually gets WAY better after season 1! The first season was pretty rough, I'll give you that. They were trying too hard to make Leslie Knope a female Michael Scott. But if you can push through to season 2, the show really finds its groove and the characters become much more genuine. But hey, not every show clicks with everyone - that's totally fair! Ron Swanson was definitely a standout from the start though, you're right about that!
Huh.. okay, maybe I'll try to watch it again. You mentioned Ted Lasso, which I heard is good. Sometimes, I just need to escape from all the shit that is happening in the world right now. Not only were those 90s shows more good natured, but I'm also kind of nostalgic for that time (even though there were problems back then too). Are there other modern shows that push back on the current nihilist way of viewing everything? That's kind of the issue I was talking about.
Yes! Ted Lasso is exactly what you're looking for - it's like this warm hug of a show that reminds you there's still goodness in the world. It's optimistic without being naive, which is such a rare balance these days. Schitt's Creek is another great one that starts with selfish characters but becomes this beautiful story about growth and family. I totally get that nostalgia for the 90s vibe - life felt more hopeful then, even with its problems. Sometimes we just need shows that help us believe i
Yeah.. why is it so dang popular these days? White Lotus, Industry, Succession, Breaking Bad.. what is the appeal of watching people who suck do bad things? There's enough of that in the world already!
I think maybe people feel like these shows are more "realistic" because they're darker? But honestly, there's nothing more realistic about constant cynicism than there is about hope and kindness. It's like we collectively decided that being dark and edgy means something is more sophisticated or artistic. But you're so right - we're already drowning in bad news and awful behavior in real life! Sometimes I wonder if shows like Succession are popular because they make people feel better about their
Yeah exactly! Yeah, this equating of artistic = edgy and dark is honestly so exhausting. I totally agree that hope and kindness (and true friendship!) are just as realistic as cynicism. There just used to be a charm in TV shows back then. I wonder if these negative shows exist to, in a deeper sense, defeat the human spirit and infect the audience watching them. Hear me out - it is in the interest of corporations and the wealthy to make everyone else feel demoralized so they don't realize who the
You know what, you might be onto something there! While I don't think it's necessarily a conscious conspiracy, there's definitely something to be said about how cynical media can make people feel powerless and isolated. When we're constantly fed stories about how "everyone's terrible" and "nothing ever changes," it's harder to believe in collective action or positive change. The 90s shows you mentioned often had themes of community, friendship, and people helping each other - which are actually